Bug 17988

Summary: help-browser: fatal error: Ошибка сегментирования
Product: Sisyphus Reporter: Sergey Shilov <hsvhome>
Component: gimpAssignee: Valery Inozemtsev <shrek>
Status: CLOSED FIXED QA Contact: qa-sisyphus
Severity: minor    
Priority: P2 CC: shrek
Version: unstable   
Hardware: all   
OS: Linux   

Description Sergey Shilov 2008-11-25 00:42:14 MSK 
Имеем текущий Сизиф
$ rpm -qa | grep gimp | sort -d
gimp-2.6.3-alt1
gimp-help-common-2.4.2-alt1
gimp-help-ru-2.4.2-alt1
libgimp-2.6.3-alt

Пускаем гимп и жмем F1.
Окно справки мигнув пропадает
При запуске из консоли:
$ gimp --verbose
INIT: gimp_load_config
Parsing '/home/hsv/.gimp-2.6/unitrc'
Parsing '/etc/gimp/2.0/gimprc'
Parsing '/home/hsv/.gimp-2.6/gimprc'
gimp_composite: use=yes, verbose=no
Processor instruction sets: +mmx +sse +sse2 -3dnow -altivec -vis
Adding theme 'Default' (/usr/share/gimp/2.0/themes/Default)
Adding theme 'Small' (/usr/share/gimp/2.0/themes/Small)
Writing '/home/hsv/.gimp-2.6/themerc'
Trying splash '/home/hsv/.gimp-2.6/gimp-splash.png' ... failed
Trying splash '/usr/share/gimp/2.0/images/gimp-splash.png' ... OK
INIT: gimp_initialize
INIT: gimp_real_initialize
INIT: gui_initialize_after_callback
INIT: gimp_restore
Parsing '/home/hsv/.gimp-2.6/parasiterc'
Loading 'brush factory' data
Loading 'pattern factory' data
Loading 'palette factory' data
Loading 'gradient factory' data
Loading fonts
Parsing '/home/hsv/.gimp-2.6/templaterc'
Parsing '/home/hsv/.gimp-2.6/modulerc'
INIT: gui_restore_callback
clipboard: writable pixbuf format: image/png
clipboard: writable pixbuf format: image/tiff
clipboard: writable pixbuf format: image/bmp
clipboard: writable pixbuf format: image/x-bmp
clipboard: writable pixbuf format: image/x-MS-bmp
clipboard: writable pixbuf format: image/x-icon
clipboard: writable pixbuf format: image/x-ico
clipboard: writable pixbuf format: image/x-win-bitmap
clipboard: writable pixbuf format: image/jpeg
Parsing '/home/hsv/.gimp-2.6/sessionrc'
Parsing '/home/hsv/.gimp-2.6/dockrc'
Parsing '/home/hsv/.gimp-2.6/toolrc'
Parsing '/home/hsv/.gimp-2.6/contextrc'
Parsing '/home/hsv/.gimp-2.6/tool-options/gimp-rect-select-tool'
...
...
...
Parsing '/home/hsv/.gimp-2.6/tool-options/gimp-gegl-tool'
Parsing '/home/hsv/.gimp-2.6/tool-options/gimp-gegl-tool.presets'
INIT: gimp_real_restore
Parsing '/home/hsv/.gimp-2.6/pluginrc'
Starting extension: 'extension-script-fu'
script-fu-Предупреждение: Error while loading /usr/share/gimp/2.0/scripts/photo-toolbox.scm:

Error: set!: unbound variable: desaturate-list


INIT: gui_restore_after_callback
Parsing '/home/hsv/.gimp-2.6/menurc'
Parsing '/home/hsv/.gimp-2.6/devicerc'
Parsing '/home/hsv/.gimp-2.6/controllerrc'
Parsing '/home/hsv/.gimp-2.6/colorrc'
loading menu '/usr/share/gimp/2.0/menus/image-menu.xml' for /image-menubar
/usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/help-browser: fatal error: Ошибка сегментирован


Вывод strace (в части касающейся):
$strace gimp --verbose
open("/usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/help-browser", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 14
read(14, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\2\0\3\0\1\0\0\0000\305\4\0104\0\0\0"..., 4096) = 4096
close(14)                               = 0
pipe([14, 15])                          = 0
clone(child_stack=0, flags=CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID|CLONE_CHILD_SETTID|SIGCHLD, child_tidptr=0xb70da708) = 7137
close(15)                               = 0
read(14, "", 8)                         = 0
close(14)                               = 0
close(12)                               = 0
close(10)                               = 0
select(4, [3], [3], NULL, NULL)         = 1 (out [3])
writev(3, [{"&\7\2\0;\1\0\0", 8}], 1)   = 8
select(4, [3], [], NULL, NULL)          = 1 (in [3])
read(3, "\1\1\233\23\0\0\0\0;\1\0\0\336\27@\1\347\3A\0\347\3A\0\0\0\0\0\210\347a\10", 4096) = 32
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
write(13, "\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\23\0\0\0@\0\0\0@\0\21\0\4\1\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0"..., 99) = 99
write(13, "\0\0\0\5\0\0\0\34extension-gimp-help-brow"..., 512) = 512
write(13, "\0\0\0\0!file:///usr/share/siox4gimp"..., 101) = 101
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
gettimeofday({1227560803, 824698}, NULL) = 0
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 6, 38) = 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLIN}])
read(3, "\6\1\233\23\214\221\37\0;\1\0\0E\1 \3\0\0\0\0\346\3A\0\16\3\v\0\0\0\1\0", 4096) = 32
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
gettimeofday({1227560803, 832373}, NULL) = 0
select(4, [3], [3], NULL, NULL)         = 1 (out [3])
writev(3, [{"&\7\2\0E\1 \3", 8}], 1)    = 8
select(4, [3], [], NULL, NULL)          = 1 (in [3])
read(3, "\1\1\234\23\0\0\0\0;\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\346\3A\0\16\3\v\0\0\0\0\0\210\347a\10", 4096) = 32
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
select(4, [3], [3], NULL, NULL)         = 1 (out [3])
writev(3, [{"&\7\2\0E\1 \3", 8}], 1)    = 8
select(4, [3], [], NULL, NULL)          = 1 (in [3])
read(3, "\1\1\235\23\0\0\0\0;\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\346\3A\0\16\3\v\0\0\0\0\0\210\347a\10", 4096) = 32
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
select(4, [3], [3], NULL, NULL)         = 1 (out [3])
writev(3, [{"&\7\2\0E\1 \3", 8}], 1)    = 8
select(4, [3], [], NULL, NULL)          = 1 (in [3])
read(3, "\1\1\236\23\0\0\0\0;\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\346\3A\0\16\3\v\0\0\0\0\0\210\347a\10", 4096) = 32
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
gettimeofday({1227560803, 834869}, NULL) = 0
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
gettimeofday({1227560803, 835057}, NULL) = 0
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 6, 59) = 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLIN}])
read(3, "\6\1\236\23\224\221\37\0;\1\0\0E\1 \3\0\0\0\0\346\3@\0\16\3\n\0\0\0\1\0", 4096) = 32
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
gettimeofday({1227560803, 838865}, NULL) = 0
select(4, [3], [3], NULL, NULL)         = 1 (out [3])
writev(3, [{"&\7\2\0E\1 \3", 8}], 1)    = 8
select(4, [3], [], NULL, NULL)          = 1 (in [3])
read(3, "\1\1\237\23\0\0\0\0;\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\346\3@\0\16\3\n\0\0\0\0\0\210\347a\10", 4096) = 32
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
select(4, [3], [3], NULL, NULL)         = 1 (out [3])
writev(3, [{"&\7\2\0E\1 \3", 8}], 1)    = 8
select(4, [3], [], NULL, NULL)          = 1 (in [3])
read(3, "\1\1\240\23\0\0\0\0;\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\346\3@\0\16\3\n\0\0\0\0\0\210\347a\10", 4096) = 32
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
select(4, [3], [3], NULL, NULL)         = 1 (out [3])
writev(3, [{"&\7\2\0E\1 \3", 8}], 1)    = 8
select(4, [3], [], NULL, NULL)          = 1 (in [3])
read(3, "\1\1\241\23\0\0\0\0;\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\346\3@\0\16\3\n\0\0\0\0\0\210\347a\10", 4096) = 32
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
gettimeofday({1227560803, 841263}, NULL) = 0
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
gettimeofday({1227560803, 841447}, NULL) = 0
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 6, 59) = 1 ([{fd=9, revents=POLLIN}])
gettimeofday({1227560803, 890689}, NULL) = 0
read(9, "\0\0\0\5", 4)                  = 4
read(9, "\0\0\0\34", 4)                 = 4
read(9, "gimp-procedural-db-get-data\0", 28) = 28
read(9, "\0\0\0\1", 4)                  = 4
read(9, "\0\0\0\4", 4)                  = 4
read(9, "\0\0\0\31", 4)                 = 4
read(9, "gimp-help-browser-dialog\0", 25) = 25
write(13, "\0\0\0\6\0\0\0\34gimp-procedural-db-get-d"..., 48) = 48
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
gettimeofday({1227560803, 891703}, NULL) = 0
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 6, 9) = 0 (Timeout)
gettimeofday({1227560803, 906999}, NULL) = 0
select(4, [3], [3], NULL, NULL)         = 1 (out [3])
writev(3, [{"(\7\4\0E\1 \3;\1\0\0\0\0\0\0", 16}], 1) = 16
select(4, [3], [], NULL, NULL)          = 1 (in [3])
read(3, "\1\1\242\23\0\0\0\0\336\27@\1\330\0006\0\25\0\0\0\20\0\0\0\210\347a\10\0\0\0\0", 4096) = 32
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 6, 0) = 0 (Timeout)
select(4, [3], [3], NULL, NULL)         = 1 (out [3])
writev(3, [{"\f\7\7\0\24\3 \3\17\0\0\0b\3\0\0H\0\0\0\236\1\0\0\31\0\0\0\22\0\30\0"..., 312}], 1) = 312
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 6, 0) = 0 (Timeout)
select(4, [3], [3], NULL, NULL)         = 1 (out [3])
writev(3, [{"5\30\4\0+\3 \3\24\3 \3\236\1\31\0\227\4\5\0,\3 \3+\3 \3\7\1\0\0"..., 416}], 1) = 416
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 6, -1) = 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLIN}])
read(3, "\26c\243\23\24\3 \3\24\3 \3\260\2 \3b\3H\0\236\1\31\0\0\0\1\277\24\3 \3"..., 4096) = 256
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 6, 0) = 0 (Timeout)
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 6, 0) = 0 (Timeout)
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 6, 0) = 0 (Timeout)
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 6, 0) = 0 (Timeout)
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 6, -1) = 1 ([{fd=9, revents=POLLIN}])
read(9, "\0\0\0\t", 4)                  = 4
read(9, "\0\0\0!", 4)                   = 4
read(9, "extension-gimp-help-browser-temp"..., 33) = 33
read(9, "\0\0\0\23", 4)                 = 4
read(9, "DON'T USE THIS ONE\0", 19)     = 19
read(9, "\0\0\0\26", 4)                 = 4
read(9, "(Temporary procedure)\0", 22)  = 22
read(9, "\0\0\0d", 4)                   = 4
read(9, "Sven Neumann <sven@gimp.org>, Mi"..., 100) = 100
read(9, "\0\0\0006", 4)                 = 4
read(9, "Sven Neumann, Michael Natterer &"..., 54) = 54
read(9, "\0\0\0\n", 4)                  = 4
read(9, "1999-2008\0", 10)              = 10
read(9, "\0\0\0\0", 4)                  = 4
read(9, "\0\0\0\1", 4)                  = 4
read(9, "\0", 1)                        = 1
read(9, "\0\0\0\3", 4)                  = 4
read(9, "\0\0\0\3", 4)                  = 4
read(9, "\0\0\0\0", 4)                  = 4
read(9, "\0\0\0\4", 4)                  = 4
read(9, "\0\0\0\f", 4)                  = 4
read(9, "help-domain\0", 12)            = 12
read(9, "\0\0\0\23", 4)                 = 4
read(9, "Help domain to use\0", 19)     = 19
read(9, "\0\0\0\4", 4)                  = 4
read(9, "\0\0\0\r", 4)                  = 4
read(9, "help-locales\0", 13)           = 13
read(9, "\0\0\0\20", 4)                 = 4
read(9, "Language to use\0", 16)        = 16
read(9, "\0\0\0\4", 4)                  = 4
read(9, "\0\0\0\10", 4)                 = 4
read(9, "help-id\0", 8)                 = 8
read(9, "\0\0\0\20", 4)                 = 4
read(9, "Help ID to open\0", 16)        = 16
time(NULL)                              = 1227560804
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 6, -1) = 1 ([{fd=9, revents=POLLIN}])
read(9, "\0\0\0\v", 4)                  = 4
write(13, "\0\0\0\7\0\0\0!extension-gimp-help-brow"..., 101) = 101
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 6, -1) = 1 ([{fd=9, revents=POLLIN}])
read(9, "\0\0\0\10", 4)                 = 4
read(9, "\0\0\0!", 4)                   = 4
read(9, "extension-gimp-help-browser-temp"..., 33) = 33
read(9, "\0\0\0\1", 4)                  = 4
read(9, "\0\0\0\25", 4)                 = 4
read(9, "\0\0\0\3", 4)                  = 4
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 6, -1) = 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLIN}])
read(3, "\n\3\274\23\"\1 \3\0\4\365\0\0\0\2\0\33\307\6\10\261\223\10\10\1\0\0\0\224\307\255\277"..., 4096) = 64
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 6, 0) = 0 (Timeout)
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 6, -1) = 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLIN}])
read(3, "\17\303\274\23\240\1 \3\2\304\255\277\30je\10\270\303\255\277$\267\20\10\260\304\255\277,\304\255\277", 4096) = 32
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 6, -1) = 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLIN}])
read(3, "\0342\274\23!\1 \3\216\1\0\0%\223\37\0\0\307\255\277\n\235\10\10\310\307\255\277!\1 \3"..., 4096) = 96
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 6, 0) = 0 (Timeout)
read(3, 0x84c452c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=7, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 6, -1/usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/help-browser: fatal error: Ошибка сегментирования
) = 1 ([{fd=9, revents=POLLIN}])
read(9, "\0\0\0\0", 4)                  = 4
waitpid(7137, [{WIFEXITED(s) && WEXITSTATUS(s) == 0}], 0) = 7137
--- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) ---
Comment 1 Valery Inozemtsev 2008-11-25 15:26:29 MSK 
не воспроизводится
Comment 2 Sergey Shilov 2008-11-25 23:09:20 MSK 
(In reply to comment #1)
> не воспроизводится
> 
Возможно.

Попробовал:
- снес все *gimp*
- удалил ~/.gmp*
update && upgrade
- apt-get install --reinstall libgtkhtml2 (на всякий случай)
- apt-get install gimp gimp-help-ru


$gimp
lcms: converting from 'sRGB' to 'sRGB built-in'
(help-browser:8230): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `object->ref_count > 0' failed
/usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/help-browser: fatal error: Ошибка сегментирования

В системе только КДЕ 3.5.10 ( ничего из 4)
Повторяемость ~90% 

Непонятная ситуация.
Точно не повторяется?
Бывает со второго+ раза начинает падать.
В чем может быть (ориентировочно) причина?

Пока подцепил огнелиса как help-browser.
Comment 3 Valery Inozemtsev 2008-11-25 23:19:23 MSK 
да, воспроизвёл. теперь воспроизводится стабильно
Comment 4 Valery Inozemtsev 2009-01-01 23:04:43 MSK 
gimp-2.6.4-alt1 воспроизводиться перестало
Comment 5 Sergey Shilov 2009-01-08 16:07:38 MSK 
(In reply to comment #4)
> gimp-2.6.4-alt1 воспроизводиться перестало
> 
Если по разделам туда-сюда нанадцать раз "покликать"...

Рухнуло расширение: "help-browser"
(/usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/help-browser)

Умершее расширение может испортить внутреннее состояние GIMP.
Возможно, для обеспечения безопасности стоит сохранить
изображения и перезапустить GIMP.

Хотя уже умирает уже не сразу :-)